rated vs. unrated?

[Anonymous]

Can someone please explain the difference between rated and unrated enlisted personnel to me? I am not entirely clueless about this. I know that rated personnel are specialists, while unrated ones are generalists. But after that it gets fuzzy. It's my understanding that E-1 through E-3 are (by definition) unrated and that to advance from E-3 to E-4 you must aquire a specialization (rating). Is this correct? Does everyone become rated eventually? Or do unrated personnel just stop advancing? Somewhere on this board I saw somebody asking if they should go for the rated or unrated option. What does this mean? If the navy is looking to fill unrated positions, does this mean you will be unrated for the duration, or do you acquire a rating later?

jonnie@poboxes.com

[Anonymous]

In a nutshell, rated individuals are service members who have either gone to "A" school or who have "striked" for a certain job. You can be an E-1 thrugh E-3 and be rated, but YOU MUST be rated before you can become a petty officer, E-4 and above. Usually, if you have not gone through A school, you can strike for a job by completing all of the requirements and score a passing grade on an advancement exam. Unrated personnel, I believe, have only about 6 years active in before the Navy tells them goodbye. Being unrated/nondesignated means you get to do the jobs no one wants, like cleaning.

It is easier for the Navy to get you in unrated/nondesiganted as then they do not have to guarantee you an A school. You are unrated as long as you want to be. The Navy never just decides you have been nondesignated long enough. It is up to you to show the initiative to get rated and promoted and request an A school.

Consider what you are interested in doing. Do you want to be on a ship, working on airplanes, be in the construction field, or in the medical field? From then, you could research (or even ask me) about what jobs sound the most interesting to you.

Aquitane13@aol.com

[Anonymous]

: In a nutshell, rated individuals are service members who have either gone to
: "A" school or who have "striked" for a certain job.
: You can be an E-1 thrugh E-3 and be rated, but YOU MUST be rated before
: you can become a petty officer, E-4 and above. Usually, if you have not
: gone through A school, you can strike for a job by completing all of the
: requirements and score a passing grade on an advancement exam. Unrated
: personnel, I believe, have only about 6 years active in before the Navy
: tells them goodbye. Being unrated/nondesignated means you get to do the
: jobs no one wants, like cleaning.
:
: It is easier for the Navy to get you in unrated/nondesiganted as then they do
: not have to guarantee you an A school. You are unrated as long as you want
: to be. The Navy never just decides you have been nondesignated long
: enough. It is up to you to show the initiative to get rated and promoted
: and request an A school.
:
: Consider what you are interested in doing. Do you want to be on a ship,
: working on airplanes, be in the construction field, or in the medical
: field? From then, you could research (or even ask me) about what jobs
: sound the most interesting to you.


if you are unsure of what job you want to do then i recommend the apprentice programs. I am in the Airman Apprentice Program and i can strike for any job the i want once i find one that i like. as for cleaning, everyone will have to do it whether or not you have a job. don't let anyone tell you different. E-1 through E-3 are basically the cleaners. Once you get to E-4 you don't clean and chip paint. In my opinion, i would rather be an apprentice and experience the jobs before signing up for one and then finding out that i hate it. hope this helps. good luck to you.

tamip69@yahoo.com

[Anonymous]

Well, as someone who plans to go into the reserves, and who doesn't want to do the same thing in the navy as I do in the civilian world, it seems that I don't have that much choice. As I understand it, being sent to a class A school is not an option for reservists. So, I guess, I have to apprentice. If I have to scrub decks for a while, I guess that's okay, as long as I don't have to do it forever.

Jonnie

jonnie@poboxes.com

[Anonymous]

: Well, as someone who plans to go into the reserves, and who doesn't want to
: do the same thing in the navy as I do in the civilian world, it seems that
: I don't have that much choice. As I understand it, being sent to a class A
: school is not an option for reservists. So, I guess, I have to apprentice.
: If I have to scrub decks for a while, I guess that's okay, as long as I
: don't have to do it forever.
:
: Jonnie


i hate to tell you but it doesn't matter if you have an A school or not, you will still be scrubbing decks and cleaning toliets. as for reservists not having an A school, i don't think that is at all true. I really believe that it doesn't matter if you are a reservist or active duty because the Navy wants everyone to be good at a job that they want to do. If you want to you can talk with my recruiter, he will help you out. His email address is dre1011083@aol.com. You can trust him to be honest with you. He won't just tell you what you want to hear. Good luck to you and maybe i will serve with you on the USS Enterprise one day!

tamip69@yahoo.com

[Anonymous]

Hey, thanks. I've been looking for an e-mail address of a recruiter. I'll check him out. What area of the country is he in?

jonnie@poboxes.com

[Anonymous]

: Hey, thanks. I've been looking for an e-mail address of a recruiter. I'll
: check him out. What area of the country is he in?


he is in burlington, nc. you can call him at 336-570-4662. his name is david reavis. hope this helps.

tamip69@yahoo.com

[Anonymous]

Coming in the Navy unrated means you'll be the peon. You will get all the nasty jobs that no one else wants to do. The other seaman who are designated are one step above you. As far as how long you can stay in: E1-E2 personnel cannot reenlist/extend and will be separated at the end of their enlistment. E3 personnel who have not meet personnel growth criteria(undesignated)- may be authorized a probationary extention of 1 or 2 years by the Commanding Officer but in no case exceed 8 years total service. E3 personnel who meet professional growth criteria-are authorized to to reenlist but cannot go past 8 years naval service. **Professional growth criteria is defined as "1. serving in paygrade E3 having passed(but not advanced) an examination for advancement to paygrade E4 and be currently recommended for advancement or/ 2. have formerly been a petty officer in current enlistment and be currently recommended for advancement to pay grade E4. Basically, they want you to show them that you can make advancement within your first enlistment. Good luck

jraya@pacbell.net