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[Anonymous]

Lets face it women are not wanted needed are accepted n any branch of service, but they can't get along without us. I earned my rank of SGT in less than 3 yrs. It was Viet Nam and my job required that I became qualifed with rifle ad pistol. No matter what MOS you all are are important. Officer or inlisted it takes both to be in the best the CORPS to make it the BEST. If anyone goes in YOU the individual must do it on your own to be apart of the rest. When I was at PI there was an inspection and all of us were on our knees polishing the floor with tampex, yes it's true. As a woman you set the day, if your happy, and organized you make your work place run smooth. You as a woman set the type of standards in which you'll be treated. So enough of dirty laundrey on this site. I'm glad the young people are asking questions but don't get so bent out of shape when we who have been and done long before you were born try to let you know what long roads we endured to make it better for you. There are a lot of ego's out there that will chew you up and spit you out, if you contiue with such attitude you'l never make it.

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[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

: Lets face it women are not wanted needed are accepted n any branch of
: service, but they can't get along without us. I earned my rank of SGT in
: less than 3 yrs. It was Viet Nam and my job required that I became
: qualifed with rifle ad pistol. No matter what MOS you all are are
: important. Officer or inlisted it takes both to be in the best the CORPS
: to make it the BEST. If anyone goes in YOU the individual must do it on
: your own to be apart of the rest. When I was at PI there was an inspection
: and all of us were on our knees polishing the floor with tampex, yes it's
: true. As a woman you set the day, if your happy, and organized you make
: your work place run smooth. You as a woman set the type of standards in
: which you'll be treated. So enough of dirty laundrey on this site. I'm
: glad the young people are asking questions but don't get so bent out of
: shape when we who have been and done long before you were born try to let
: you know what long roads we endured to make it better for you. There are a
: lot of ego's out there that will chew you up and spit you out, if you
: contiue with such attitude you'l never make it.


I must agree that there are many of us who earned our rank before our time. Some get it because they demostrate true leadership abilities. Many in my former commands would have people report directly to them about what was going on in the unit, when others would just find other means of observation. Some people are planted into a unit by military police or by other authorities. Never think for a minute that your command is not watching. Had a Captain tell me that once, because I found it really hard to believe that some people in the Corps could get rank. Let us take the Staff Sergeant at the Camp Pendleton motor pool. He would throw a hatchet in the door frame as you walked through it. The hatchet would land even with your face. Fortunately, my questions led to upper command finding out. You see rank did not matter to him. He threw that hatchet every single time a person entered through it. Have to agree that there are people in the military who will spit some people out and chew them up in no particular order. If people cannot handle this web site, I must admit they will not handle it in any branch of service.

But I must disagree that a woman makes her work place run smooth. (however you put that). I don't mean anything wrong by this but my experiences have shown me different. For the most part you are correct. But I have seen what has happened to women who had things just right, attitude, military by the book. It didn't save them because unfortunately there is always a malcontent somewhere that thinks women are only good for one thing. I have to watch how I say that too, because many of the men in my command were so fair and just that I would fight to the death for, even today and I'm a civilian now. I would say it is safer to say that most women can make their way by trying to become equals by doing what it takes to get the job done. What I am saying is very similar to what you are saying. I am just saying that it is not in all cases. I am happy to hear that some women make it through ok without any tales of horror, but I find it hard to imagine after the things that I have seen. I believe it is possible, just hard to imagine. I have had the experience of reading the many articles from women in the service at the women veterans memorial. Many, many women have been treated bad. I don't believe that their experiences were all bad. What I do believe is that women need to learn to look out for each other. To teach other women how to survive, you know, pass it on. The men have done this so well for so long that is sickening. Why can't women learn, get rid of the queen bee syndrome you know? Never saw that until I went in the Corps. Most men are not "naturals" and must be trained just like a woman must be trained. I was able to see Marines that understood the true meaning of TEAMWORK and were able to show that meant everyone. I am seeing military persons who display TEAMWORK as men only. There is no "I" in TEAMWORK and there is no gender in that. I trained with the best fighters, the best long distance runners, the best shooters too. It didn't give me a smooth path even though my skills were developed beyond most men I saw. My step-father who was a Naval Seal in Nam and he was the one that brought it to my attention about my abilities. He was so against women in the military and law enforcement when I went to Parris Island. You would never know that now. He changed because I gave him room. Maybe women will just have to make a lot of room for the change.

Many women choose to speak out to ease the pain. It's better than holding it all in. That's why Fire/Rescue came out with Critical Incident Stress Debriefing. (CISD) It really works. Some women see speaking out as a means of seeking justice. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Whatever their reason is, its the first step. I'm not sure what dirty laundry you meant, but I have noticed some pretty juvenile statements on this site. My recruiter always said that you just need to learn the ropes. There is a waiver for basically anything. I found that out quickly.

Lisa Diehl

Semper Fi

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