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Anonymous
09-03-2004, 07:12 PM
So my recruiter told me today that i have one week to meet the weight requirement for the physical. For my height its 159 and by his scale im 164. My weight fluxates pretty frequently but I want to be sure to meet it. Any ideas to lose it quickly other than eat well and lots of running? Thanks
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Anonymous
09-07-2004, 02:47 PM
Atkins, Atkins, Atkins!!! Induction phase, where you eat ONLY meat, cheese and eggs!!! 1 cup of veggies a day. ONLY!!! for two weeks. Or move your physical out and wait for the next board or whatever. Recruiters get in big trouble when they send overweight applicants up for the physical. Waste of resources.
So my recruiter told me today that i have one week to meet the weight
: requirement for the physical. For my height its 159 and by his scale im
: 164. My weight fluxates pretty frequently but I want to be sure to meet
: it. Any ideas to lose it quickly other than eat well and lots of running?
: Thanks
Anonymous
09-08-2004, 12:53 AM
MOVE YOUR DATE. You will be doing both yourself and the AF a deservice. You should not go into basic weak/malnourished from unhealthily quick weight loss. There is NO healthy way to lose weight in a week, and you should never consider doing it.
All due respect to the late doctor, one cup of vegetables a day is not healthy. He did a great job refocusing people on the need for protein(at the time, people were on a "NO FAT/CARBO LOAD" fixation.)
Since then, nutrition has come full circle. Thanks to science, we know WHY everyone's great-grandmother was right. If you're interested in the details,which would be great, go back and learn some basic biochem, and what key nutrients do what.
If not, here's your KISS checklist:
1. If you can pick it or catch it, you can eat it. (NB: you can't pick a box of Fruit Loops off the vine, and you can go out and hunt a hot dog.) 2. Sugar is for dessert. (It has no business being added to ANYTHING else.) 3. Vegetables are nature's way of packaging vitamins for human consumption. EAT THEM. VARY THEM.(They are the tools that help you actually USE the protein and fat to fix yourself.) 4. When you DO eat starch, keep it as unrefined as possible. (And if you're running, you WILL need some.) 5. Plant, Nut, & Fish Fat = GOOD!!!! (Your brain, nerves, and cell membranes are made from it. They're called ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS for a reason.) 6. Animal FAT = OK, (but trim what you can see; after all, we make our own.) 7. Trans FAT = BAD. (The plant fat molecule, normally a liquid, is twisted[TRANSformed] so that it stays solid at room temp. It ain't natural! And your body can't build right with it. Things get built back stiffer.)
8. Move more than you sit. If you're not out being aerobic four times a week, you're NOT IMPROVING. 9. CONSISTENCY. 6 hrs of training on Saturday is nowhere near equal to one hour of training a day for 6 days. 10. Sleep Well! (That's when you get stronger.) That Old Wives' Tale about everyhour of sleep before midnight being equal to 2 after it? NO JOKE.
Take your time and do it right. Don't let the recruiter rush you. You'll be the better woman for it, and basic will be MUCH easier. Good Luck!
T_Pau@juno.com
Anonymous
09-09-2004, 08:58 AM
Nicole:
I really liked your response, and am wondering if you have any advice for those of us who are in the intermediate stage of this thing? In other words, what comes between the KISS checklist and a course in biochemistry?
I abandoned the Low Fat (and therefore High Carb) Diet four months ago. Since then I have increased the "good" fats and cut back on the "bad" carbs, and always aim for a balance of fat, carbs, and protein at each meal or snack. It is working. My cholesterol went down by 30%, and I've lost the extra weight that I was carrying. I'm doing this with a physician who is trained in nutrition, but I don't see her very often, or for very long, so I'm starved for more information about this.
I'm okay when I'm home, but after 4 months of this experiment I'm getting rather bored with it, and sick and tired of my own company, and my own cooking. But when I go outside I feel like I'm on a different planet because there doesn't seem to be anybody else out there who is up on all of this yet.
Do you know of anybody who has taken your KISS checklist and expanded it into a good book or website?
Anonymous
09-10-2004, 02:27 AM
http://fitday.com/WebFit/Home.asp
Here is a good weight loss tool to help you keep track. My dr. said Atkins wasn't healthy, he only knew of two people who kept weight off. Find someone who has been to Basic training recently, find out what kind of PT they did and start doing it. I was in AF back in 72-76, I am quite sure it changed but thankfully then high schools had 4 yrs of PE. Kids now are getting robbed- only 2 semesters of PE. We hated it but it really helped. Good Luck.
lynhead52@yahoo.com
Anonymous
09-13-2004, 12:16 AM
One of the best books I've found to date is one called "The Omega Diet". It reads well, and sneaks the science in. (Which is good, because if you don't start formulating an understanding of how your body maintains, repairs, and improves itself, you won't be able to judge for yourself whether or not specific eating programs are nutritionally valid. And if you can't judge for yourself, anyone who appears to write or speak with authority will be able to sway you.)
A good reference is "Prescription for Nutritional Healing" Balch, Phyllis and James. It has a great breakdown of key component and vitamin/ mineral counts of food, along with a huge section on nutrients that are necessary for fixing certain problems/injuries.
You didn't say where your cholesterol started, or what the LDL/HDL ratio was. Learning the significance of the FDA'S "normal" as compared to actually healthy values is of critical importance. (Read Dr. Robert Haas' "Eat to Win", chap 1-6. pub 1979, I believe.) It's NOT just the total, nor is it JUST the HDL. It's the composite of the total cholesterol COMBINED with a proper ratio. And it's only one of MANY factors that influence your health.
[For an educational and humorous break, if you haven't yet seen "Supersize Me", do it. You'll be blown away.]
Try NOT to do this via websites. Many sites are of dubious value, and until you've filled in the knowledge blanks, you many be easily misdirected by someone who has nothing more than good webmaster skills. Use real books.
There is one legitimate site that you can use to direct you towards good info: www.LEF.org. (Life Extension Foundation.) These are the guys that the vitamin companies trust to mediate when they start accusing each other about whose vitamins are more pure. They're also the ones who fought (and won against) the FDA twenty years ago for the right to let people know that folic acid was crucial for pregnant women. (The FDA sued them for spreading lies. We now know, of course, that they were right all along.) They work to get info out. Don't be put off by adds...they started offering their own supplements 15 years ago when their readers kept writing about the difficulty of obtaining quality supplements
But again, some simple stuff:
-Eat real food, the way nature made it...not the way we've ruined it.
-When you go out, don't spazz; just stay away from fried stuff, and make sure you get at least one serving of green vegetables. (Potato chips, fries, onion rings, ketchup, and popcorn DON'T count as vegetables.)
- Cup your hands one under the other, as if you were drinking from a stream. For you, this is the size of a serving. (They're YOUR hands.)
- If you're going to have something starchy/junky, have it in the middle of the day, so you burn it well.
-Unless it's a half serving of protein, DON'T eat before bed. (Actually, try to call it quits by 9:00pm.)
- Don't consume Aspartame. Since nature didn't choose to combine those two amino acids in real life, there is no naturally occuring protease (enzyme that breaks down protein)to digest it. It lodges in your tissue, and has a special liking for neural tissue. (Besides this, it tastes nasty; and your tongue is supposed to be your first line of defense.) Have a real coke occassionally if you want it. Just be an adult, and realize that:
A: 8 oz. is one serving, NOT 20 oz. B: this is your desert for the day.
-Simple Bottom Line:
1. Keep you junk intake to 5-10% of your daily intake.
2. Vary you healthy foods.
3. Remember; it's fuel, and it's building you. Get your comfort from your friends and other interests.
Hope this sends you off in the right direction. Keep at it; I'll see you out there.
T_Pau@juno.com
Anonymous
09-17-2004, 01:02 PM
Are you sure about one cup of veggies during Phase One? I'm reading it as most veggies are fine, in fact necessary. From what I read it's the kind of food, not the amount that porks us out. It's foods high on the glycemic index (GI); ones that screw up the glucose/insulin balance we have to limit, even avoid. In Phase One, the goal is to get over the craving and, more importantly the habit, for the high GI foods like white bread or white potatoes. Further, Atkins points out that limiting portions, ie one cup of this or that, is self defeating and even harmful. A 25 year old, 6'2" male doing heavy construction work needs a lot more food than this 60+ 5'2" female.
Chloe, that's good advice to delay your enlistment and take off the weight carefully. Weight that's take off in hurry more often than not comes right back in hurry. It's about changing your life style and habits.
:
: Atkins, Atkins, Atkins!!! Induction phase, where you eat ONLY meat, cheese
: and eggs!!! 1 cup of veggies a day. ONLY!!! for two weeks. Or move your
: physical out and wait for the next board or whatever. Recruiters get in
: big trouble when they send overweight applicants up for the physical.
: Waste of resources.
:
: So my recruiter told me today that i have one week to meet the weight
Anonymous
09-17-2004, 05:33 PM
Veggies high in starch, corn, potatoes, etc... DANGEROUS and FORBIDDEN in Adkins. Get the textbook/hardcover Atkins for Life, much easier to read, like a text book. I'm pretty sure about the veggie thing. I don't have the book in front of me. Double check. The other responses you got below are pretty awesome too. Sounds like some nutritionists to me. Atkins really worked for me, but you will gain it back if you go off of it. Very fast too. It is a fad diet but it works to drop the poundage quickly. Get the Ketone strips to pee on so you can monitor the fact that you are burning fat for fuel. You can get them at Wal-Mart or GNC. It is motivating too.
Are you sure about one cup of veggies during Phase One? I'm reading it as
: most veggies are fine, in fact necessary. From what I read it's the kind
: of food, not the amount that porks us out. It's foods high on the glycemic
: index (GI); ones that screw up the glucose/insulin balance we have to
: limit, even avoid. In Phase One, the goal is to get over the craving and,
: more importantly the habit, for the high GI foods like white bread or
: white potatoes. Further, Atkins points out that limiting portions, ie one
: cup of this or that, is self defeating and even harmful. A 25 year old,
: 6'2" male doing heavy construction work needs a lot more food than
: this 60+ 5'2" female.
:
: Chloe, that's good advice to delay your enlistment and take off the weight
: carefully. Weight that's take off in hurry more often than not comes right
: back in hurry. It's about changing your life style and habits.
Anonymous
09-17-2004, 07:52 PM
Nicole:
Thank you for taking the time to give me the info that I asked for. I've been out of town for the past few days and haven't had a chance to do anything yet, but will try to get started on the books and the movie this weekend.
I'll keep at it, and be careful. I've learned (the hard way) that you can't trust most of the advice on this, not even when it comes from the people who are supposed to be the experts. Almost all of the doctors around here, for example, are still pushing the Ornish Ultra Low Fat Diet for cardiac patients with high cholesterol, and when that doesn't work, the next step is to add one of those horrible "statin" drugs.
Fortunately I stumbled on a doctor who knows nutrition and I'm told that my problem is really a fairly common condition known as insulin resistance. Once I started to treat that (by adding fat - mostly unsaturated - and eliminating the high GI carbs) my cholesterol problem was corrected too.
And I'm starting to hope that my immune system is beginning to work better as well. The ragweed season starts about mid August around here and for the last few years I've been close to crazy with it because nothing that I tried seemed to help. This year I don't have a problem, so I've got my fingers crossed that the ragweed allergy has gone away too.
Anonymous
09-17-2004, 08:25 PM
Hubby and I have started it and we have the book. Green leafy veggies are fine, low starch and tomatoes are the one fruit allowed in Phase One :)
Thanks for the tip on the Ketone strips.
:
: Veggies high in starch, corn, potatoes, etc... DANGEROUS and FORBIDDEN in
: Adkins. Get the textbook/hardcover Atkins for Life, much easier to read,
: like a text book. I'm pretty sure about the veggie thing. I don't have the
: book in front of me. Double check. The other responses you got below are
: pretty awesome too. Sounds like some nutritionists to me. Atkins really
: worked for me, but you will gain it back if you go off of it. Very fast
: too. It is a fad diet but it works to drop the poundage quickly. Get the
: Ketone strips to pee on so you can monitor the fact that you are burning
: fat for fuel. You can get them at Wal-Mart or GNC. It is motivating too.
:
: Are you sure about one cup of veggies during Phase One? I'm reading it as