Married Military Couples
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by married military couples. Tell us how you manage a
dual-military career.
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applicable branch of service: Air Force, Army, Coast Guard,
Marines, Navy, and Dual Services
General Issues
Posted: 24 JUN 03: MOS vs Joint Domicile in the
Army
I have been reading the your post about Dual Military. I am an 88K and my
Husband is an 88M. When we were planning on getting married we knew it would
be tough to get stationed together. My MOS is only in two different locations
and his is everywhere. But I was planning on to Reclass anyway, when my first
enlistment contract was up.
Before we were married he was on an deployment for several months, in that
time he receive orders for recruiting duty. I called him and told him
about this and he said we will see what happens. Next thing happened was
9/11/01 and he had to stay a little bit longer and we had to rearrange our
wedding.
After he finally came home we got married at a very, very small ceremony. So
we could start our paperwork for the Army Married Couples Program and Joint
Domicile Program. It is imported that you are enrolled in both. Both of
our 1SG and Commanders were supportive and helped us, so we could walk our
Paperwork thru. After all that, we found out that, since his Orders for
Recruiting were before we got married, it would not be considered for his
assignment, only for mine, since I was on no assignment Orders. Once he would
be done with Recruiting our joint Domicile/Married Couple Program is in
effect.
When he was in Recruiting School we found out Which Recruiting BN he was
assigned too. So we checked out how I could be stationed there. There was
no Active Army Component for my job or my Rank.
So there we were I could not be stationed with him. And when I would go to
Recruiting it would only be for a year. So we decided that I would get
out at this time when my contract was up. And that I would join the Reserve
when we find something I liked.
He had to report about three months before my Terminal Leave would start.
Running two households in two different states is very expensive. After our
household goods were finally gone I stayed with some friends till I signed out
on Terminal Leave. I have been here now for about six month and there is
just no work around here. But I found a Reserve Unit and I am happy that I can
still serve this country. My Husband has about 2 years left here and then we
hope to go to Germany. I am already working on to get Reclassed so I can go on
Active Duty again.
Our joint Domicile/Married Couple Program stays in the system so I know we
will be stationed together next time, when we both are on active duty again.
We are both proud to serve this country and both of us can not imagine to do
anything else at this time.
Posted: 28 JUN 02:
For the past thirty minutes I have read every story on this page. And after I
am amazed to find that I can relate to each and every one of you. My
husband and I are both E4s in the Navy. We are exceptional versions of the
junior enlisted Sailor in that we are stable. We are financially sound,
have two planned children, own our assets and have no "junior Sailor issues."
This however, does not void us from knowing the hardships that couples are
faced with. Your stories of barely making it were at some point in time right
in front of us.
For all of you that are struggling financially, remember that it is near
impossible not too. Do not feel guilty, for buying your child a new toy just
because of money matters. Things will get better.
For the families struggling with the separations that plague military members,
close your eyes and think about the day that he comes home. Because they will
be back, and even if only long enough to say goodbye again, they will be
grateful to see you standing at the pier.
And to the dual military wives of all ranks, when the civilian wives look at
you with contempt or scold you for not being a homemaker, you look at them and
you remember that you are a military member. Then push back a little further,
past the flight schedule and under the POD...there to the left of your old
seabag should be a little light...a little light that shines above the dishes
you did in between watches, and the picture of your daughter in her "My mom is
in the Navy" t-shirt...a light that shines so dim that you can barely see the
carpool schedule under your husband's PQS sheet. When you see it, reach out
your hand and turn it up, make that little lights so bright that it blinds the
angry women around you and take a moment to see that you are a housewife, a
mother, a teacher, and a Sailor. Which if I am correct means that you are one
more great thing that all of those women aren't... you my friend are the
American Hero.
And whether you choose to do twenty years or barely make it through your first
enlistment, you will always be a Veteran, that will never change. So for the
simple fact that you made it through one day of military life always know that
no matter how it ended, I and millions of other women are grateful to you and
we await the day that we cross your paths so that we may say, Thank you,
thank you so much for sharing this journey with me."
Posted: 28 JUN 02:
My husband just recently EAS'ed. I am still in the Marines. So far, we have
spent 80% of our marriage apart. It is been very difficult. We were
apart the whole time I was pregnant. It was tough. My unit didn't really
approve of our marriage, so a day after we were married, he had orders to
Okinawa. He also was denied leave after our wedding. Some people that we
worked with were miserable at home, so I guess they didn't want us to be
happy. Everyone said we wouldn't make it a year. Well, August 12th is our 2
year anniversary, and we are still together. So, to all those people who tell
you it won't work, it will. You have to want it to work.
Posted: 12 Jun 01: "Dual Military Couples
and Other Spouses" (In response to the 8 Jun 01 Post)
I've been part of a dual officer couple for all of my 19 years on active duty.
Since the majority of the officers in my career field (scientific) are male, I
tend to know the male half of a couple better than the female half.
Throughout my career I've interacted with lots of different types of spouses.
Some of the Officer Wives Club groups tried to include me although I typically
didn't participate (I don't know if they talked about me or not). Other
spouses I just couldn't connect with and at social gatherings I spent my time
talking to my male office mates (same comment as above). When I was pregnant
with our second child, many people asked me when I was getting out. I
think the puzzled look on my face in response to their question was answer
enough. One boss's wife even felt I should serve as the "senior
wife" in terms of spouse's activities even though I was a member of the
organization! I probably should point out my husband worked for the same
boss, so technically I was a spouse within the organization (as was he, but I
was expected to cover both of our offices). My husband understood and
usually between the two of us, we found some relatively painless way to spread
the word about activities (but typically didn't participate). I think it
really frustrated the boss's wife, but it worked for us.
Fortunately, the number of dual professional couples seems to be on the rise
(with and without kids) and I find I have a lot more in common with the
non-military half of the couple. There will always be people who believe
they have all the solutions for your life and yes, I believe many of them are
married to male military officers! It just doesn't do any good to argue or
debate with them. The best thing to do is put on a plastic smile, keep
the conversation short, and vent when you get home. You are free to
choose the company you keep and at social gatherings gravitate to the people
you have something in common with. Perhaps at some point you'll come
across another educated woman who shares an interest in art!
Signed, Lt Col B.
Posted: 12 Jun 01: "Dual Navy Marriage"
I am a Surface Warfare Officer in the Navy and my ex-husband is SEAL officer.
My story is obviously not a good one since we are no longer together.
First I'll tell you our story and then I'll tell you what I think went wrong
so hopefully those of you reading this can avoid the same problems.
We dated for almost three years during school. We were constantly
together during the school year and separated for long periods of time during
the summer months. After graduation, we decided to get married. I
reported to a ship and immediately started going to sea. My husband
couldn't stand it. He became depressed and developed separations anxiety
disorder. This is my own opinion because he was to "macho" to
see a doctor about his depression. It got so bad that he begged and pleaded
for me to get pregnant so I would not leave on deployment. When I said,
"No, I have an obligation to my shipmates." He accused me of
loving the Navy more than him. ( I don't know how many woman actually
get pregnant to avoid sea duty and deployments, but I think it's despicable
behavior and I refused to be one of "those".) Anyway, I finally
decided I had enough and walked out the door. Obviously, the major reason for
the divorce was his depression which he refused to seek treatment for. But the
other major reason was we simply got married too young. That can be a
problem in any marriage, but it is compounded by separation. We
"grew up" with new and different experiences that had nothing to do
with each other. We had so many friends that were exclusive to our commands.
Typically, when people marry young, they live together day in and day out.
They experience the same things. They have the same problems. Not
military people. You "grow up" apart creating different goals
and ideals.
Another contributing factor was communication. It wasn't a simple
communication problem. My husband constantly berated me about expressing
my feelings and analyzing our relationship. I was not a very good
communicator and when I was finally able to find the words to express myself,
he'd either be too angry to listen or too bored to remember what I said.
So, the key's to a successful military marriage, in my opinion, are:
1. Seek help when needed
2. Spend as MUCH time together as possible
3. Communicate and LISTEN
Posted: 8 Jun 01: Dual Military Spouses and
Spouses
I'm an officer married to another officer, and was wondering if anyone else
experiences the prejudices from other military spouses that I get sometimes.
I participate in both squadrons to the hilt, and do as much as I can
additionally
with the base. My husband and I are both active in the community, but
often times when I attend social functions the other spouses: ignore me and
sometimes make snide comments. The spouses are often the ones in my
husband's squadron. On one occasion I went to a birthday party of a
friend of mine, and his spouse was the only one that would talk to me.
One of the other spouses came to me and asked if I had kids, and when I said I
did not, she rolled her eyes, and walked away. She didn't say I word to
me. I'm not that rude to any of them, and do kids make me any different
of a person. When they come over, they make comments about how they
can't wait til I have kids, then I'm going to have to sell a lot of the art
work I collect (hand carved wooden statues from Africa). My mom has much
more expensive and breakable things than I do, and she runs a daycare with 14
kids in it. They make comments about how we won't be able to afford what
we have when we have children, because I can't work. It's not, I may
decide not to work, it's I can't work.. like I have to have their approval to
work. I'm wondering if anyone else faces this criticism like I do.
Air Force
Posted: 19 Oct 01:
I too, was part of a dual military marriage. We were both
in the Air Force, he still is....I am not and I am grateful. I had the
highest marks in performance evaluations, my career was going strong, until one
day. The United States Air Force lost an extremely valuable person when I
was not allowed to take vacation time during a war exercise. I hadn't
taken any vacation, sick leave or just time off in almost a year when my
daughter's daycare classmates came down with Chicken Pox. I had notified
my superiors in advance and was told that I had to find someone to watch my
child while she had Chicken Pox...that's asking a lot of someone. They
would have to watch my baby for 17 hours a day for 4 days while she had the
disease. I couldn't believe I was denied vacation time to take care of my
child. My husband was denied as well. I will never forget that
day...it reminded me of what was truly important to me...my daughter...not my
career. Guess what...she didn't get it afterall...but I left the Air Force
and didn't even join the Guard, had she got Chicken Pox I may have gone AWOL.
What's sad is, I was educated enough to become an officer, trained so well
that I was regarded as being one of the best in my career field, I even had an
opportunity to interview for a job at the White House. I could've gone
far, but I'm glad I didn't, I'm glad I can stay home with my children. When
you are dual military it's not easy...sometimes someone else has to raise your
children while your both unable to do so. It's all about priorities and my
children come first and I'm so glad I do not have someone dictating when I can
care for my sick child.
Posted: 6 Jun 00:
My husband and I are both E6s in the Air Force. He's been in for over 13
yrs and I've been in for over 12. We've been married for 6 years, have
two beautiful children and two awesome careers! While neither of us
would trade our time in for anything we've had our share of difficult times.
There have been deployments where both of us had to leave at the same time
(one of the hardest times for me as a mother) and TDYs where he had to become
Mr Mom to a four-month old for six weeks. There where exercises when
neither of us could make it home before our kids went to sleep and days when
we drew straws as to who would stay home with a sick child. We find
ourselves both supportive of and a little competitive with each other but in a
very complimentary way. The best part? Mutual understanding.
I have someone I can complain to about mid-shifts who won't tell me,
"Just make them switch you to days". I have someone who
understands how hard I work for my accomplishments on the job and off. I
have someone who knows how beautiful a 2-yr old's long distance phone call is
even if all I hear is her breathing. I have someone who can check my
uniform and physical appearance. I have someone who understands why all my
friends are guys. I have someone who gets teary-eyed with me when we
hear taps or see a POW/MIA ceremony. Dual military isn't for everyone and
there are those who tell us over and over that it shouldn't be for anyone (a
good wife should stay home) but it
works wonderfully for us!
"A true leader has the confidence to stand alone, the courage to make
tough decisions, and the compassion to listen to the needs of others. They do
not set out to be a leader, but become leaders by the quality of their actions
and the integrity of their intent. In the end, leaders are much like
eagles...they don't flock, you find them one at a time." Unknown
Posted: 3 Dec 99:
My husband and I, both active duty Air Force, were married almost 8 months ago
while stationed here in Germany. (By the way, our wedding and honeymoon
were FANTASTIC!!) Anyway, I have to say that being married to another
military member can be challenging. For instance, he and I are on
different schedules right now. When I come home from work, he's just
waking up, getting ready to leave. We rarely get to hang out
together (one of my favorite pastimes!) in fact, we see each other maybe an
hour or two a day. Fortunately, for us, this will only last a couple
more months, then all should be back to normal. Also, for the past 2 and
1/2 years that we've been together (dating + married) we've had to deal with
my very frequent TDYs; being separated geographically is not easy for anybody,
for any amount of time. Anyway, let it suffice to say, my
husband and I both agree that it's hard being apart from the one you love, but
when you finally get to come home....OH, YEAH!!!! :-)
Posted: 14 Sep 98: "A windfall life as a duel
service family"
My husband and I met when I was in basic training. It took him
over a year for me to marry him, but I'm glad he did. We were in
the USAF for 9 years. We were fortunate enough to have been
stationed together, except for his remote to Korea. I won't lie,
being a two military family is hard, but its well worth it. I was
in personnel and my husband was a COP. He worked nights and I
worked days. Most of the time I'd pass him on his way home when I
was taking our daughters to daycare on my way to work. More time
than not he was TDY, while I worked 12 to 15 hour days. Someone
said you have to have a little super mom in you. That's the
truest statement there is, except you have to be a super couple,
with alot of understanding and communication. I was fortunate
enough to have a man that would clean house, do laundry, and cook
if needed, (That is when he was at home). During our time in the
military it was not always free flowing and easy. There were
tough times, but we saw them through. We have now been married
for 14 years. Though we have been out of the active military for
six years, I will never regret the time we spent on active duty.
It made my children stronger, more responsible, and much more
tolerant of any situation that comes their way. If anyone ever
asked me is the military the way to go, or should they marry a
fellow military person, I would say go for it in a minute. I
commend all those military couples out there for all they do on a
daily basis, keep up the good work at home and at work. Your hard
work is very much appreciated.
Posted: 31 Aug 98:
My husband and I are both E-4's in the USAF. We have a 2 year
old daughter and are always being discriminated against because
of our dual status. We have spent about a year total apart in our
three years marriage due to TDY's and Deployments. They have
strengthen our relationship tremendously. I am so sick of hearing
people, at our base, specifically, complain about being away from
their civilian spouse for more than 3 days at a time. The
military is exactly that, the military. We are not here to be
"babysat" or catered too because of our father's status
in the military or because we haven't seen our mom and dad in 6
months. I work with a bunch of babies who are always passing on
crappy duties to me because my "husband is military and will
understand". So, to all those military spouses out there who
keep whining about their spouses duties...this is a 24-7 job. Who
said life was fair, and if you miss "mommy" and
"daddy" that much, what's stopping you from going home?
We ALL took that oath to SUPPORT and DEFEND, and that's what me
and my husband are doing, without complaint. Unless you were
unconscious at time of enlistment, then you should understand
what the USAF, and military in general, is all about. If you
don't like it, then get out or seek professional help. The
military pays people to listen. I don't get paid to listen to
whining, I get paid to do a job and to do it right. My whole goal
in life, while on active duty, is get planes off the ground
safely. My home life should not interfere with that mission. Just
as the mission should not interfere with my darling daughter and
home life. This is the military. And if that is not understood,
then get out. The US military doesn't have time to cater to whiny
individuals.
Posted: 23 Jul 98:
Hi, I am on my second marriage of dual Air Force military
couples. My first marriage lasted 6 1/2 years to a military
person who decided to get out and pursue his education and
career. I came into the military with the idea I would stay in
for 20 and he was aware of this. He followed me to Germany (he
picked the base) and started school and finally got a job on
base. He found it difficult to adjust to being known as my social
security number and in 14 months he went back to his home to
pursue his dreams and I had three years left in Germany. We
finally divorced and two years later I married another military
person. We've been married ten years and we've pulled our remotes
concurrently, his in Korea and mine in Alaska. The separations
are the hardest part, I've been TDY several times and now it's
his turn. It's been a good life but it's had it's difficulties
too. We've seen so much of the world that we would never have had
the opportunity to see. I am enrolled in a masters program now
and I came in with a GED. I could never have gotten my education
on my own, I could never afford it. You have to be a strong
person and willing to take orders but I would recommend it to
anyone!!
Posted: 27 Apr 98:
My husband and I are dual Air Force members. We experience a
lot of separation in our career field. This past 9 months have
been apart more than together. We firmly believe that we must
both do our part. I just returned from a 4 months deployment in
the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. A month after my return my husband
went to the NCO Academy for 6 weeks. He was home for a week and a
half and then it was my turn for the Academy. After being
together for two months he will deploy to Yugoslavia. It is
difficult to balance our travel with three children but I
wouldn't trade it for anything. Our children are more responsible
and a lot more independent than most of their peers because of
out lifestyle. They must pitch in to make it all work. The Lord
has blessed us and I am grateful. If I start to get down and feel
it isn't worth it I just remember there is always someone who has
it worse.
Posted: 10 Apr 98:
My husband and I were in the AF together for a short time. It
was a wonderful thing being a dual-military marriage. However,
when it came time for our child to be born, we both decided it
would be better for me to get out and stay home with our
daughter. It's a hard thing to let your husband leave on many
TDY's, just imagine how difficult it is for our little girl. The
least we could do for her is to have one of her parents home for
her all the time. I sometimes regret getting out of the military,
but I just have to put my family first, and reflect on the
wonderful times the military gave me. I will forever value the
sense of self worth and self discipline the Air Force gave me. It
was a wonderful experience I would recommend to anyone. Besides,
one of the perks is being able to have your spouse so close to
you, they are always ready for a lunch date!
Army
Posted: 5 Se 01:
I've been in the army for nearly years and recently married. My husband
and I will be stationed together at our first permanent duty station (after
being in training for almost two years).
I'm a bit disappointed in the Married Army Couples Program. It worked
out in the end but we had to really fight for it. A week before my
husbands graduation from AIT, we were told that we would not be stationed
together.
My husband raised hell and calls were made to Perscom. For the next few
days our orders kept changing. At one point we were told that if I did not
extend my contract, my husband would be sent OCONUS while I remained CONUS,
and furthermore that I would be barred from reenlistment. My husband told them
that I would not extend and that it would be "a shame" that I
couldn't reenlist, basically calling their bluff. Thank goodness it
worked and we will now be stationed together CONUS.
But like I said, I'm quite disappointed in MACP. Someone clearly wasn't
doing their job. There are four soldiers (with grad dates after me) here
at my AIT (all with the same MOS/language and two with the same rank as me)
who had soft orders to go where my husband was initially going, but still our
joint domicile request was initially denied. It ought to have been to do
a simple switch.
I'd also like to point out that I'm not the only one who's been received
pressure to extend. Another soldier at my AIT who has also been in
training for almost two years, with two years left on his contract, was told
he had to extend his contract so that he could be sent OCONUS. He
refused to extend, and was threatened with being separated as soon as he
finished AIT. How crazy is that? He saw through it of course
- why on earth would the army spend two years training him just to kick him
out, when they could easily station him CONUS?
I don't know if everyone has as much trouble with MACP. I'm thinking,
probably not. In any case I know that even though my husband and I will
be stationed together, deployments and TDYs will keep us apart often. I'm not
looking foward to that I can't wait for my enlistment to be up. When I
signed up I had little idea what I was getting into. Now after
completing almost half of my enlistment, I'm starting to understand how much
commitment to serving, how much dedication and sacrifice it takes, and that
I'm not willing to give up so much.
Posted: 25 May 01: "Married to Each Other
and the U.S. Army
When we first met, it was in a recruiting office. He was a new E-6
recruiter and I was an E-5 reservist helping out there during my free time.
The military has given both of us a greater appreciation for down time.
It also gives each of us many opportunities that we wouldn't have had
otherwise. He also has two children from his previous
marriage. Being a military family does actually have many
advantages. It is a lifestyle that isn't for everybody. Since he
is one of the honest recruiters that goes the extra mile for his applicants,
he spends a lot of hours away from home. I also am not home a lot due to
my full time nursing job. I spend my days off helping out at the office
doing whatever needs to be done. Whether it is speaking to an applicant
or updating paperwork....the time I spend there helping is almost
invigorating!! Everyday I am thankful for our careers.....If it wasn't
for us being married to the Army, we would never be married to each other.
If there is anyone reading this that is interested in talking, feel free to
email me at
becky91c@yahoo.com.
Posted: 11 May 01:
My husband retired 6 months ago with 24 year spent in the Army. I was in
the Army for 10 1/2 years. He was a Military Policeman and I was a motor
sergeant. I loved my job and he loved his. Then, he made E-8 and needed my
"wifely" support. I chose to finish my time and support him and be a
mother for the first time. We had a live in nanny that was wonderful. It
saddened me for my baby to wake up at night and not want me. My children did
not know
me. I know if I stayed in the military, we would be divorced by now. We were
on our own schedules and both of us were very independent. We are both
veterans. I now work in the Human Resource Office in a veterans
hospital. I love to see the vets here and talk to them. We understand each
other. I do miss military life and being a wife of an active
duty soldier. We are adjusting pretty good to civilian life. Thanks to the
military, we saved pretty good money to get us a great start on our new lives.
I will encourage all three of my children to go in the military. It will give
them a solid ground to stand on.
Posted: 19 Jan 01:
My husband and I have been married about 18 months. We have, however,
been in the same place for about 6 of those months! (between the
rotations to Bosnia and Kuwait, that's what we've ended up with.) It's
hard being separated, but at the same time, we have had a terrific marriage,
know each other so much more than we might otherwise as letters and the phone
take the place of seeing each other...We finally received our joint domicile
approval from branch (we are both signal) and have set up housekeeping...
Persevere! It is totally worth it. If two signal SSG's can do it,
then anyone can.
Posted: 5 Aug 98: "12 hour time differance"
My husband and I just recently married. We are both in the
Army. I am an E-5 and he is a E-6. I am currently stationed in
Germany and he is in Hawaii, getting ready to PCS to Presidio in
November. It is hard being separated by half of the world. It
also is looking like we may not be stationed together when I
leave Germany in March 2000. The closest they tell me is Ft.
Irwin, which is 3+ hours away. This separation is hard but he and
I are doing what we can to make the best of it. Thank God for
email and DSN phone lines. Hopefully all will work out.
Posted: 22 Jul 98:
My husband and I are both retired Army officers. We each
reached the grade of Lieutenant Colonel. We have two children,
ages 16 and 14, who were born in Germany while we were on active
duty. My husband and I just celebrated our 19th wedding
anniversary. We had five major separations during our military
careers:
1. My husband and I were separated for 9 months while I went
to flight school in Alabama to become a helicopter pilot and he
was in Maryland.
2. My husband kept our 2-year-old son and 3-month-old daughter
in Virginia while I attended the Army's 6-month advanced course
in Alabama.
3. My husband kept our then 3-year-old daughter and 5-year-old
son in Virginia while I attended the Defense Language Institute
in California for 8 months.
4. I kept our then 6-year-old daughter and 8-year-old son in
Germany when my husband went to Desert Shield/Storm from Nov 90
to May 91.
5. Our last major separation was for almost a year. My
9-year-old son lived with my husband in Virginia and my
7-year-old daughter lived with me in Kansas. We got back together
as a family in 1992, after about 18 months of separation.
In all those separations, we have spent lots of money on phone
bills and plane tickets. With respect to our children, whenever I
was gone, I talked to them everyday, even when they couldn't talk
back. I read bedtime stories and sang bedtime songs on cassette
tapes for them, which my husband played for them every night. I
sent my children something in the mail every day--whether a piece
of gum, a balloon, a sticker, etc. Every day I sent them a small
note or a postcard. I've kept scrapbooks for them of these times
we spent apart. We always tried to get back together every 4
weeks or so. It was harder between California and Virginia than
at other times.
Our children are independent, bright, motivated, have seen the
world, lived in Germany (went to German schools and German day
care, lived in German neighborhoods, and spoke German), are
tolerant, and capable. My husband and I are happily married and
only regret that, these days, with teenagers and their
activities, we have less time to spend together alone than we
used to.
It was not easy being a dual-service couple. My husband was
the most egalitarian husband I know. No job was too womanly for
him to do. He did everything. The responsibilities were jointly
ours. We each could appreciate the other's career. We understood
about alerts and company command and not knowing the next
assignment and being staff duty officer and having Christmas
dinner in the mess hall and getting stopped on the way home by
the battalion commander to check the motor pool one more time. It
was exciting to be able to share every detail of one's career
with one's spouse, because we each knew the atmosphere the other
worked in. We knew the worries and concerns and stresses. My
husband also had to deal with having a wife that was a helicopter
pilot. He handled that very well, too. He was extremely proud of
it, and would mention it to new acquaintances within 5 minutes of
meeting them. He also liked the extra money.
In those years (1979 to 1994), the military worked well with
us, but we did find that many military members with traditional
spouses were exceedingly jealous of what they perceived as our
"unfair" income. This was probably the hardest thing to
deal with after our long and short separations, long hours, child
care, etc.
But we're glad we did it and stayed in to retire. We have many
golden years ahead. The military is a hard, hard life but the
rewards are many, both during active service and in retirement.
Best of luck to those of you still undergoing your active duty!
Posted: 5 Mar 98:
Hi, my husband and I love our life and career in the military.
I am a E-4 about to make E-5. My husband is an Army Cpt/0-3. We
have many challenges being a married couple, but nothing together
we can't overcome. Last summer I attended PLDC in Hawaii and he
remained at homestation commanding his company. It was rough but
we both made it through. This is a very rewarding life and career
and I strongly encourage military service and dual-military
marriages, they really do work. Well I thought I'd share a moment
of my time to share my thoughts and feelings on the subject.
Thanks.
Coast Guard
Posted: 14 Jun 00:
My husband and I met while we were both cadets at the USCGA. Our first
assignments put us on separate cutters with alternating schedules. The
cutters were stationed a little over 100 miles apart, so for the first two
years of our marriage we saw very little of each other. We maintained an
apartment at a town half way between our stations, but since we rarely saw
each other, it just meant long commutes & high gas bills. Our second
assignments put us about 150 miles apart. Again, we endured 1.5 hour
commutes to our respective duty assignments. Our subsequent assignments
never put us any closer together than 100 miles.
In addition to the long commutes, each new assignment meant that we had to
choose between "career development" and "co-location".
Every detailer we spoke to told us that we would have to sacrifice career
development if we insisted on being assigned to the same area. One
career would have to "suffer" just so we could be 100 miles apart!
We were never assigned to the same town and our "dream sheets" were
just a joke to the detailers. Basically, they would tell
us..."We've got this job here and this job there. Job B is a real
career killer...but, if you want to stay together...well, one of you will have
to take it."
We were told that the small number of officer billets in an area made it
extremely difficult for married officers to truly "co-locate".
Most of the success stories come from the enlisted ranks b/c due to the
greater availability of billets in an area.
Needless to say...I made the choice to separate from the service. I
truly miss the Coast Guard, but the sacrifices became to great.
Posted: 10 Jun 99:
I joined the Coast Guard with a BS degree in Education and
chose to go enlisted. I believe everything happens for a reason
and soon after I met my husband who is also Active duty Coast
Guard. I met him 10yrs ago at my first unit. We were close
friends and stayed in touch even after transfer and got married
5yrs ago. The Coast Guard has been good to both of us and we are
both willing to give the Coast Guard back all it has given us.
The Coast Guard has allowed us to be stationed together from New
York to Hawaii and now in Miami. We both know that the needs of
the Coast Guard come first and there is always the possibility of
being seperated but we have been very blessed. I think as long as
people are flexable in location and make the most of where ever
they get sent, things will work out.
My husband got a head start on me and retires in 2yrs. I still
have 10yrs to go and he is very supportive of me staying in. We
both have the ultimate dream of buying an RV at retirement and
seeing the country
Posted: 23 Apr 99:
Hello, my husband and myself are both in the Coast Guard, and
both Quartermasters 2nd class. We meet at A school 6 years ago
and have been married 5. We have a wonderful 5 month old girl. We
have been stationed together and apart from Hawaii to Virginia.
But for at least a short time we are together in Virginia. He's
afloat on a 82ft cutter and I'm now teaching A school. Times have
been tough, especially being the same rate, which makes it harder
to co-locate us but the Coast Guard has helped us and the
Detailler does everything he can. But we also remember it's also
the needs of the service. To anyone thinking about marrying
another service-member, think hard, you're love must be strong,
both to the family and the service. Thank you.
Posted: 10 Oct 98: "Married in the Coast
Guard"
Hi! My husband and I met while stationed together in Miami,
FL. We were both aircrew and dated for a year before marrying.
The Coast Guard has been very supportive and always worked with
us in our careers and duty stations to keep us together. Two
years ago, I went to OCS and my husband stayed enlisted to
achieve his goal of Chief Petty Officer. We've been married for
eight years and even though we have experienced some separation
while I was on a ship, life together in the service has been
great. With both of us being active duty, we each understand the
demands of a military career and find it easier to communicate
with each other.
Marines
Posted: 11 May 01: "Dual Marriage -- Marine
Corps"
I am a Staff Sergeant and my husband is a Sergeant. We have 2 gorgeous
kids but it has been rough on me since we have decided to have kids.
I wonder how most dual couples with kids do it. Most stories here seem
to good to be true. I constantly have to say "No, I
can't....sorry... can you do me a favor?...etc." because the base daycare
(which is wonderful by the way) doesn't open until 0630 and closes at 1800.
And they are charging us 200.00 a week for our 2 children. 800.00 a
month! At least 3 days a week, my company has to be in at 0515 for PT or
some other function. I suppose that since I'm of a higher rank
than my husband, it is a little easier for me to "get out of
something", but with him being a Sergeant of Marines (toughest rank in
the Corps) I want him to excel so I seem to take on many burdens. It
find it disheartening to see so many Marines put their career ahead of their
family. And I have actually been insulted for not doing the same, yet I
persevere and will not change. As far as I know, the Marines do make
headway in the fact that they do a very good job of keeping duel military
couples together. I have almost 10 years in and I hate to see all that
hard work go to waste if I get out, on the other hand I wonder if certain
sacrifices are worth it in the long run.
Posted: 12 May 98: "THREE CHEERS FOR DUAL SERVICE
MEMBERS!"
My husband and I stepped on the yellow footprints at Paris
Island on the same dark night. Only we would not find each other
until four years later. On May 17th we will celebrate our 12th
wedding anniversary, everyday with him is cherished, because you
never know when either one of you will be leaving and for how
long. It takes two special people to make a duel military
marriage work. The husband must be especially strong,
understanding, and trusting, simply because of the work
environment his wife has to work in and the wife needs to have a
little "Super women" running through her veins. Our
first two years of marriage, we were not stationed together, but
since that time our monitors have kept us at least stationed on
the same base. We have four children and we have been blessed
with a wonderful childcare provider, that makes a world of
difference. Your relationship must be based on support and the
understand that neither's career is anymore important than the
other's. Your goals must be established early on and you need
each other to obtain them. My husband is an LDO Capt and I am a
Gunnery Sergeant in the Marine Corps, do you think we don't get
alot of questions. Communication is a must and mutual respect can
never be in short change. We are each other's best friend,
listening post, shoulder to cry on and "sanity check"
when requested or needed. Our marriage has had it's rocky points,
don't get me wrong. All our friends think we have the perfect
marriage, they think we NEVER fight, and that's good for them to
think. All our disagreements are kept in the privacy of our
bedroom and worked out without anybody knowing (to include our
children). Children of duel military families are the ones who
have it the hardest, I do believe. They say a "normal"
child needs a stable home, so that means we probably have the
most "un-normal" children in America. Actually, I feel
that military children are probably the most
"balanced". They are exposed to more than any
"normal" child in America, and yet they seem to survive
with all the adversity surrounding them. Here's to the duel
military families!
Navy
Posted: 4 Nov 01: "Marriage, Military, and Love
Don't Mix"
I am an AC2 in the Navy. I had been in the military for 4 years when I met my
soon-to-be ex-husband who is
now an AE1. We were both going through bitter and hurtful divorces at the
time. We became very good friends and then started dating. We lived together
and had our ups and downs for 2 years before he decided he wanted to get
married. I was away in school when he asked me. When we finally transferred
as a married couple, he left for cruise 10 days later. When he returned
home...it was difficult to adjust, but we managed. His squadron did a quick
turn around and started work ups approximately 2 months later. Out of a
365 day period...he was home for 55 days and
gone the rest including another 6 month cruise. When he took orders to come
to shore duty it was time for me to go to sea. I took orders to San Clemente
Island in order to at least stay closer to home. But it really didn't make
much of a difference. We still had our problems and we were still not
together. Of the 8 Years that we were together...we were never really
together. We tried to hold on to the love that we had once had, but we were
both unhappy with the whole
situation. When we decided to divorce...I had had 10 years and my husband
12. But things were too hard to handle. Once again I was being sent to
sea...this time to the ship. We realized we were going in different
directions and that it was over. Even though I am still very much in love
with this man...I know that there isn't room for relationships in the
military unless both of you are extremely strong people and dedicated to
making the relationship survive, but one person can not do it alone. I miss
my husband. I wish him happiness and hope that I, too, can find happiness on
the sea.
Posted: 19 Aug 00:
I am 20 years old and an E-4 in the Navy stationed in Pearl Harbor HI at the
Naval Shipyard. My soon to be hubby was stationed on the last Los
Angeles class Fast Attack submarine~USS CHEYENNE, but is now currently under
instruction at the Naval Hospital Corps School in Great Mistakes Illinois! He
has been in for 3 years coming this December and myself 2 years this November.
We are getting married the fall of 2001, hopefully around October. I do
realize that being on an island and having the possibility of him being
stationed at the Marine Corps base which is about 45 minutes away, will be
difficult because of all the traffic on this "tropical" island (yeah
right, go to LA and get the same effect!). The major opportunity that I
am looking forward to is competing with each other for our degrees. He
will be going for his Masters and I will be going for my Bachelors (I have a
head start being on shore duty and all, and him on a sub) We are not
going to have any children until our education and service is over with, we
have steady jobs and our careers have solidity and we can provide for
ourselves and our home. We decide this because of the life the Navy has
shown us so far. Separation, inconvenience, frustration and grief for
expressing these feelings. A 24 hour duty day, a page in the wee hours
of the morning from someone who "Just doesn't understand what to do where
to go", a phone call from the police station to pick up someone caught
for DUI, a phone call from a crew member in the middle of the night who just
hit his wife......these are things that happen daily, weekly, monthly, nightly
and we take care of them no matter what we are doing or how we are feeling.
These are just some of the aspects of our jobs off duty and on duty. We
both get our share of them and some. It's almost like our hobby is our
relationship that we just don't get enough of, but we will stick it out and
overcome this Navy life
and come out winners, together while both serving our country and contributing
equally for each other.
Posted: 5 Apr 00: "Being married to a sailor"
I was reading the stories about being married in
the military and I didn't quite agree with the stories you had. You need to
have stories that are more real life. I am 21 and have been married to a
sailor for four years. In that 4 yr.. he has been in the navy for 3. It
is not easy when you have a three yr.. old and expecting another one on the
way. Especially when the baby is born your husband is going to be "out to
sea" doing things that has no point at all for the US government. While
in the mean time you have no family with in 700 miles and you have to figure
out who is going to take you to the hospital when you are in labor or never
the less watch your child. Yes as they all say speak with the command, but as
for my command they say sorry ma'am but you didn't come in your husbands sea
bag. And the help they do offer you is from the commanders wife and if you
haven't went to the bars or gossip with her over tea then you do not exacts.
This is just a small problem that I think should be shown to others. This is
just one little slice of the big cake of the "military wife".
Posted: 16 Apr 99:
I am the Navy wife half of this combination. My husband is a
LTC and I am a LCDR waiting patiently for the results of the 0-5
board. We have been married for almost 12 years and in that time
we have been stationed in the same place and shared a household
about 4 years. The detailers try very hard to put us in close
proximity to each other but normally that means 3-4 hours apart.
We began our marriage with him leaving for FT Leavenworth (to
attend school) 6 days after the wedding. He will be leaving soon
for Korea for a year unaccompanied and I will remain in Newport
RI at least until March 2000. Communication is the key - so
AT&T has gotten richer from our phone calls (normally every
day when separated except when he was deployed to the Gulf and to
Bosnia). We don't have any children at home so that does lessen
the burden but separated is separated. It is tough but he is a
very special person and we have worked hard to trust and
understand each other over the years. It hasn't been easy but it
has been worth it.
Posted: 10 Oct 98: "Married in the Navy"
My husband and I have been married for 1 year and 5 months. We
met in "A" school. We are both E-3's in the USN. We are
both stationed in Naples, It. It has been hard being dual
military. We have been separated many times sience we have been
together, but nothing together we can't overcome. Being dual
military is a lot of hard work, but anyone can make it work. If
you just believe and never give up. Good luck to all!!
Posted: 5 Oct 98:
I met my husband, Charlie, while stationed in VRC-50 in the
Philippines. We married in 1979 and had duty together twice in
VRC-30 San Diego. Once 1979-1982 and again 1986-1990. We retired
in Jan of 93 . Some of our career we were separated by oceans and
some by opposite work shifts. Once we had to use a log book to
leave messages to each other. These times are not the ones I
dwell upon when my service comes to mind. I usually remember
living out of a seabag on detachment in Japan, Korea and Guam. Or
getting that 3am phone call to be on the early launch crew of a
C-2A to the boat. It was an exciting life and a wonderful career.
Posted 31 Aug 98:
I am about to make E-7 and my second husband is an E-6. My
first husband did not share in household duties and I had to find
a sitter if I had duty. We were married for 9 years which
included a 3 1/2 year tour in Japan. After my divorce I remarried
a wonderful man who does share all aspects of house duties. I
have a 15 yr old son and a 13 yr old daughter from my first
marriage. In the five years we have been married he has done a
tour in Diego Garcia (1yr) and a work up cycle and deployment (6
months) and another work up cycle on board the USS Constellation.
Last year I deployed aboard the USS Constellation in a squadron,
My husband kept my daughter while my son chose to live with his
father. My husband and I both have the same rating, he is
currently on shore duty but is required to travel so we always
have to look a couple of months out to make sure someone will be
home with the kids. They think that they can take care of
themselves you know the "I'm 15/13 and think I am 20."
We always joke and say we play tag with the checkbook. I takes
alot of communication - thank god for email. My children have
become very independent and understand duty and what the Navy
requires of us and when we get time, we spend it together.
Posted: 29 Jun 98:
Being dual military definitely has its challenges. I am a
First Class Radioman and my husband is a Senior Chief Electronics
Technician. We are currently stationed in Japan. We have been
married for 10 wonderful years, and have suffered and flourished
through deployments, PCS moves and TAD periods. We have 2
wonderful children who have learned to adapt no matter where the
Navy takes us. We have been stationed in Spain, Italy, Brunswick
Me, and Japan. If we had it all to do over again, we probably
wouldn't change a thing! It's great to find a web site for us and
others like us.
Posted: 23 Apr 98:
My husband and I are both retired Navy. He retired as a ABHC
in 93 and I retired as a LT (LDO) in 96. We met and married while
stationed in Sigonella, Sicily in '78 and were fortunate enough
to be stationed together over the next 18 years. We have three
wonderful teenage boys (13, 15, 17) and loved every moment of our
military life (well almost every moment). It was very difficult
trying to get stationed together and was even more difficult to
raise a family and be successful in the military. We managed to
do it though and have no regrets. I managed to get stationed in
my husbands homeport when he was on sea duty and vice versa. I
finally got to go to sea when I was commissioned and we reversed
roles as I went to sea for med deployments and he stayed home and
was Mr. Mom. While being away from my family was very hard, I
would not have traded that experience for all the money in the
world. I learned what life was like at sea and my husband learned
what life was like at home. We learned that life on the
"other side" was not easy for us and discovered a whole
new outlook on life. We have been married 20 years come August
and can only hope that other married military couples out there
have half a good a life as we have had. Good luck to all of you.
Keep the faith and hang tough. Always Navy.
DUAL SERVICE
Posted: 22 Sep 99:
My husband is in the Coast Guard and hates every minute of it. He is
still on his first tour. I, on the other hand, have been in 10 years in
March and I am busting my butt to stay in. My husband thinks that just
because his command is rotten and has no morale that all services are the
same. We seem to have the same fight about the military every three
months. I love the Navy, joined right out of high school and having to
fight to stay in with weight and H.Y.T. I get so frustrated. He
doesn't enjoy the service like I do. He had many jobs, big and small,
before he joined so he has a different idea on the military. The good
thing is when he gets out, I don't have to worry about trying to get stationed
with him.
Posted: 31 Aug 98:
My husband and I serve in different branches of the military.
He is a Cpl in the Marines and I am an AT3 in the Navy. We both
have been in 4 years. We met shortly after boot camp, like so
many other young duel military couples, but unlike the majority
of those, we have made it almost 3 years (I know, it's not all
that long, but long for some!). It has not been the easiest of
paths we could have taken. I know there are times we were so
frustrated because we could not live together. ( I was stationed
in Norfolk, VA and he was in Cherry Point, NC) Somehow we
survived the long time apart doing the weekend thing and are now
stationed in the same state, happily living together. All I want
to say to those of you who are in the situation where you cannot
be with your spouse for an indeterminate amount of time, remember
that sooner or later it will all work out. I think it made my
husband and I stronger having to deal with being apart for the
majority of our marriage. I am looking forward to the next 50-100
years with him! *Smile!* Take heart and don't lose hope. It is
all worth it in the end. Good Luck to all of you!!
Posted: 24 Apr 98: "Dual Military, Different
Branches"
It was one thing being dual military, but being dual military
in different branches of the service made for an interesting
life. My husband was commissioned in the Air Force and I was
commissioned in the Army. We were both warned of how difficult
the first tour of duty is for a newly commissioned officer, and
in order to stay together, we both had to be prepared to make
tremendous sacrifices. We were lucky to be stationed relatively
close to one another - I was stationed at Ft Bliss, Texas and my
husband was stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico. The 45 mile
midpoint between the two bases was White Sands Missile Range
which was where we called home. My husband, being an Air Force
Security Police, had rotating shifts and there were many days
that we would miss each other completely. I was a Platoon Leader
and worked easily 12-15 hour days, not to mention the countless
field exercises and TDYs. We both had to work like hell to
reprioritize and ensure that we could fit a marriage in
somewhere. We would have to schedule dates and do lots of
strategic planning to ensure that we could spend quality time
together as husband and wife. It was very difficult to tune out
the military because it was so pervasive our lives. Our troops
seemed to know us better than our spouses! That was pretty sad!
The year I had my son, I was up for promotion and due for a
PCS move. My branch manager told me that my only choices were
Korea or Korea. My husband was also in the same boat and his PCS
choices were not only Korea but Japan as well. My assignment
would have meant that I would be on an isolated tour of duty, and
my husband would be left to care for our son. That was completely
unacceptable to both of us. We both opted to get out. We have
both been out of Active Duty for almost 4 years now although we
both are in the Reserves. We will never forget the valuable
lessons that we learned from our jobs and from all of the people
that we met. I think that is what we both miss most of all about
Active Duty - all of the wonderful people that we met and worked
with. I really wish it could have worked out for us but we both
decided that we wanted us more than we wanted the military. I
have friends that are dual military that have managed to make it
work, but they are lucky in that both of them are in the same
branch of the service. I wish them and all dual military couples
good luck in their careers and in their marriages because if they
can combine the two successfully, it's a great life.
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